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Thought I'd break out this discussion from the Pre Order thread now that we have played our first games.

I thought it played well, nice back and forth and quite fluid considering our lack of rules knowledge.

One thing for more in depth reading was how to put out people on fire.

With the charge rules and the ‘free’ push in to base contact, I’ve been mulling it over for a while as it is clearly a pretty key concept. All that asking on FB communities has achieved is confirmation that it can definitely be read both ways and that people like arguing!

I’ve settled on my best guess being no free push, it’s a terrible wording for trying to say that if you can’t reach b2b then you can’t go within 1”.

I do think you’re right, they have used strange wording.

Essentially my take on it is:

In the movement rules you can’t move to within 1” of an enemy.

The charging rules let you ignore this movement rule but only if you end your charge move in base to base contact.

That's the conclusion I've come to as well.

I think the most important thing is the we come across these questions and decide how we are dealing with them before starting the campaign so everyone knows how these things work

Not being involved in this discussion in any way it appears to me that if you've played GW games before it makes sense and if you're new to their games it makes a different sense. I know GW want new blood in their games but are they ready?

A big bit of the confusion seems to be that new 40k rules do involve all kinds of sliding in to combat so people are coming with that in their minds already.

The 40k system is that you are engaged if within an inch so you only have to reach that to make it into combat, but at the start of the actual combat everyone gets an extra 3" pile in move. Your models also get to fight if they are within an inch of someone who is within an inch of the enemy so units essentially fight in two ranks. You also get a 3" move afterwards towards the closest enemy model (on a model by model basis). Necromunda clearly has none of this at all.

There's a general feeling on the internet that the toxin rules are supposed to kick in no matter how many wounds you have left. But the current wording of the rule is that the toxin rules are ‘instead of making an injury roll’ and injury rolls don't kick in until you run out of wounds.

Thoughts?

Dunno about that not got that far. But we did our close combat slightly wrong, did wonder at the time but it turns out if you use a pistol in cc you need to roll the ammo dice too.

They are a bit of a mess, I am happy to play as written but the intent is that they don't roll injury dice but rather you do the Toughness test whenever the model suffers a wound (not an injury, this is where GW seem to get their own terminology mixed up at times) and, regardless of number of wounds the model has remaining, if you fail you go out of action (this is based on having seen some interviews with the Australian designer where he explicitly stated this is how they "work").